Posts by Nathan Natas

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"Apostasy"

by Zilgee in

the so called apostates of first century later became the catholic church.

these apostates like saint athanasius, theologian, ecclesiastical statesman, and egyptian national leader decided which books would be part of the bible.

we are now following what they decided.

Official WT 800-page Shunning Manual ??

by Chevelle in

does anyone have a pdf copy of the 800-page book (or reference manual?

) "jehovah's witnesses and disfellowshipping"?.

https://youtu.be/fxpdodqlut8.

Nathan Natas

WOW! Atlantis, you are the DUDE, Dude!

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there were several times when i was inside the congregation that i met up with a problem in my life and on mentioning it at a group i would be told to do my own research about it.. of course, they didn't mean for me to research worldly material for the answer but to use the wt indexes and look into the wt society magazines.. it was only when i started to do my own research outside of the wt that i began to see the limited scope of the society's magazines as all problems usually fell into the category of 1. read the bible, attend meetings, go out on the work, and pray; or 2. this isn't going to be fixed now but in the new world god will sort it out and the former things (what you are suffering from now) will not be called to mind.. i wonder how many people still in are struggling and are not being encouraged to research away from the organisation where they would receive practical and valuable advice?.

Nathan Natas

Anyone who thinks that "researching" through a stack of Watchtower publications is actual research deserves to remain stuck in the cult.

It is a BIG world; OPEN your mind to include those opinions the Watchtower would "protect" you from. Study real history, study comparative religions, consider the opinions of scientists and historians who are called "fringe" by the academic establishment.

Only you can set you free!

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Ecclesiastes 9:5 -"the dead know nothing at all"

by aqwsed12345 in

the narrator of the book of ecclesiastes had very little knowledge of many things that jesus and his apostles later preached.

the author does not make statements, but only wonders (thinks, observes, often raises questions, and leaves them open).

he looked at the world based on the law of moses and found nothing but vanity, as the earthly reward promised in the law did not always accompany good deeds and earthly punishment for evil deeds.

Nathan Natas

Experience has taught me that it is not just the dead who know nothing at all.

Let the reader use discernment.

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A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

by KShelton in

my name is kevin shelton.

my wife is a jehovah's witness.

my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

Nathan Natas

Kevin, you have a private message from me.

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A Jehovah's Witness in a relationship with a non-Jehovah's Witness

by KShelton in

my name is kevin shelton.

my wife is a jehovah's witness.

my two children are jehovah's witnesses.

Nathan Natas

I think the first thing you should know is that this site is populated mostly with ex-JWs and this site is considered "apostate" by The Watchtower.

Second, your kids are NOT JWs unless they are baptized, and if they are not it is in your - and their - best interest if they DO NOT get baptized until they are of legal age - Jesus got baptized at 30 years of age.

Third, you need to spend some time reading the following site: https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-studies/case-study-29-jehovahs-witnesses

Good luck to you and your entire family.

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You Can Live Forever on Blu-ray now available for pre-order

by yalbmert99 in

you can live forever on blu-ray now available for pre-order from kino lorber - releases on june 6th 2023.. this canadian movie was made by ex-jw sarah watts.

it is about a forbidden lesbian love within the jws.. https://kinolorber.com/product/you-can-live-forever.

Nathan Natas

I had no idea I could live forever on Blu-ray! I suppose if the discs are carefully stored, maybe I could!

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Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday

by slimboyfat in

for newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?

he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.

the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.

Nathan Natas

Thank you Carl Olaf Jonsson.

" All that your hand finds to do, do with your vigor, For there is no doing or devising or knowledge or wisdom In the unseen where you are going."

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What is Greg Stafford up to these days?

by slimboyfat in

you may have been wondering: what is greg stafford up to these days?

lots of interesting things, is the answer.

exposing the false trinity doctrine, of course, but keeping on top of other issues too.

Nathan Natas

Slimboyfat asked, "You may have been wondering: what is Greg Stafford up to these days?"

Nope, never occurred to me.

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New convention video: Do you see what I see?

by neat blue dog in

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Nathan Natas

Be on the lookout for the new musical album from JW(dot)ORG, titled "Van Amberg On The Beach".